Since we are newbs there are various introductory talks.
Conference Feedback/Collaboration
Aggregation of identity blogs - http://www.planetidentity.org/.
Kaliya Hamlin gave a brief introduction using this map.
Protect applications from identity complexities
Allow digital identity to be loosely coupled
User controlled and user centered
Identity doesn't make sense if locked into one system.
Identity is like TCP/IP we need a unified system that can be used and shared by all.
He is showing a demo of Card Space. This lets you use cards that come from different identity providers. What is cool is that the software makes it easy. What sucks is that you have to install client software to make it work. However, Vista will have it and I would guess that it will show up in a Microsoft update.
"Privacy is security from the point of view of the individual"
Some Java code that does SAML complies with Shibboleth
David Recordon(Verisign used to work at Six Apart) - OpenID 1.0
- Free protocol
- Not a service or company
- Simple (doesn't look so simple to me)
- Survives if companies die or become evil
OpenID 2.0
- Convergence with XRI, LID and SXIP (DIX)
- Multiple protocols
- discovery Yadis
- Authtication 2.0
- Data Transport Protocol
- Attribute exchange Extension
- Assertion Quality Extension
- Simple Registration Extension
Scott Kveton CEO of janrain
Free libraries on OpenID.net
Eugene Kim - Blue Oxen Identity Commons(wiki) I listened to this talk, and it was fairly long. However, the only thing I think he actually said was Identity Commons will provide a good 'symbol' for identifiying the identity community.
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Some people are listening.
Sorry to hear I wasn’t clear in conveying what Identity Commons is and why it’s important. There is in fact an organizational structure, and there are a number of significant people in the identity community — including both the OpenID and OSIS projects — represented as Working Groups.
The point I was trying to convey was that we’re not creating Yet Another Organization merely for the sake of creating Yet Another Organization. A big part of the value is for folks to be able to use a common community mark as a way of quickly conveying their values. In a way, it’s similar to a Creative Commons icon or even an organic food certification (although it’s far more lightweight than a ceritification).
I’d be happy to clarify more in person if you catch up with me tomorrow, and you can also talk to any one of the 15 Working Group Stewards.
Wow. I really didn’t think anyone actually read this blog. Sorry to bad mouth consultants - my bad. I am interested in seeing the community unite and I think you did do a good job making the point that unity is important. At times the number of different identity projects feels like Blu-Ray bs HD-DVD or Beta vs VHS. As a developer I really don’t want to implement 5 different standards and I don’t care much for the complexity of the solutions I am seeing. Having said that perhaps some unifying symbol under which the different camps unite will help solve some of these problems.
I would be careful using the ‘Commons’ term. When I heard Identity Commons I assumed it had something to do with a license related to user information as Creative Commons is a set of licenses that helps people deal with copyright.
The great thing about the Internet is that everything is findable. My blog aggregator picked up your post because it mentioned Identity Commons. And no worries about the consultant comment; I badmouth them myself all the time.
I feel just as overwhelmed by all of these protocols as you do, and I’ve spent a lot of time poring over most of them. The wonderful thing about this community is that we recognize that redundancy hurts everyone, and we’re willing to set aside our differences to solve these problems together. However, you have no way of knowing this unless you are already an active participant in this community.
My hope is that the Identity Commons brand comes to represent this cooperative culture to both insiders and outsiders. Even if there are a lot of redundant standards, if I know all of the parties are part of Identity Commons, I can feel confident that they are collaborating with each other to consolidate them as soon as possible.
Regarding your comment about “Commons”: One of the Working Groups (led by Phil Windley) is doing exactly what you describe — exploring licenses for sharing personal data. Creative Commons is indeed one of the inspirations for this work.